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After a wee break away at my caravan watching the rain and walking about in the mud, I'm home again and back to guitar building. I've carved the top to shape now, but not entirely happy with the plug repairs on the dowels that I'd carved into. I was intending to keep the natural wood colour on this one, but I think I'll maybe try a blue stain and make it really dark around the edges where the repairs are. Would it be practical to stain this before I glue it to the body? That way, if it turns out a mess, I can just make another cap now that I know that I can do it.

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@robin

Looks ok in the photo 

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@rocknroller912  It doesn't show up in the photo, I'll post some photos of the offending bits later


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@robin

All might not be lost. If you plugged with end grain it will look odd but matching grain can be disguised good enough to have a natural finish.

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Here's the photos of the pieced in bits, sanded to 120 grit now. The two on the edge I think are ok, but I'm going redo the two on the horns. I've found an offcut that came from just about where I've photo'd it, so it has to be a better match for grain and colour.

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@robin 

The edge ones don’t show up much at all. Patches are about deceiving the eye so round or oval shapes are better than squares and rectangles. To finish the outside bit that shows up you can even take thick shavings with matching grain and clamp them over the patch, so perhaps you could try this on the patches you have already done to save doing the whole thing again. Sand a slight hollow to allow the shaving to bed in although this works best with water based glue. Titebond dries black and might show around the edges. Clear flexible plastic as a clamping caul helps to line the grain up 

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Thanks @rocknroller912 

I like that idea of glueing a shaving over the poor repair. Both these plugs on the horns are on a curve, so I guess I could sand a flat spot and glue a little wafer of matching grain over it. Sanding it back down to the contour should leave an oval shape that might be quite discreet. I'll give it a go.


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@robin

Good luck, get the shaving with matching grain first and make sure you’re happy with it before you alter the body. Top class restorers even paint the grain lines onto plain wood if they can’t get a good match.

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I had a go at gluing a shaving onto one of tbe horns. Not exactly a shaving, I couldn't get a decent one. I cut a 0.5mm slice with the bandsaw and sanded the glue side smooth. It worked really well, apart from the dark edges the the titebond left, @Rocknroller912 did warn be about that. It was looking good until I sanded a little too much and can now see edges of my original repair. I'll get some clear setting waterbased glue and try again.

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I've tried again ( four more times) to disguise these dowels that I exposed at both horns and got to the point now that I reckon its as good as I'm going to get it. The photo with the pickup sitting in place is my final attempt.My search for a clear setting water based wood glue led me to evo-stick, turns out that it doesn't set clear and I don't think its water based either, maybe it used to be. Once I've stained it blue then I'm hoping the dark edges wont be so obvious.

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@robin

I think it looks ok, better than the square patch as the edge looks like natural grain and doesn’t catch the eye as much. It could be mistaken for natural imperfections in the wood which is good. I hope it takes colour ok.

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A good job well done @robin. 👍😁 

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The glue claims to take a stain, I'll find out how well on a test piece I've glued up when my bottle of stain arrives.


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@robin I think it looks great. Onwards and upwards. ✊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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@boo   @russ

Thanks for the encouragement.


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If it makes you feel better @robin , my neck joint angle is literally a mil off. I think that is what drives us to build, to learn from mistakes and do it once more just so we do not repeat those mistakes. Gonna have to make a new neck on this. Just like @boo said. Onwards and Upwards. Keep on! 


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Posted by: @clinton

my neck joint angle is literally a mil off. I think that is what drives us to build, to learn from mistakes and do it once more just so we do not repeat those mistakes. Gonna have to make a new neck on this.

@clinton It’s weird isn’t it that we measure everything several times before cutting any wood, just to make sure and it can still be wrong. And, when we are talking about something like neck alignment etc, 1mm is a lot. We have to accept these mistakes though, no matter how much work we have put into it, and remake or fix whatever the problem is. Yes they can be big setbacks like making a new neck all over again, but it makes us stronger, more clued up and ultimately better guitar makers/instrument makers. 

I completely messed up a paint job the other week. I spent a lot of time masking it up but due to a few mistakes and misfortunes, I ended up wiping the whole lot off. I’ll find some pictures. 

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I’ll upload my pictures to one of my topic pages so not to piggy back off Robin’s topic here. 

Pictures of my paint mistakes here: https://guitarmaking.co.uk/community/finishing/🍭🍬fun-with-candy🍬🍭/paged/2/#post-19404

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After a wee break away at my caravan watching the rain and walking about in the mud,

Ahhhh, those Scottish summers

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Posted by: @rocknroller912

@robin

Looks ok in the photo 

And I agree.  If you leave the dowels visible, but not obvious, it becomes a bit of a talking point and provenance for the guitar’s origins.

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