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I recently bought a Taylor GS Mini (secondhand).

It's a great little thing with a lot of oomph from the little body, easy to just leave around the house to pickup and play whenever because it's just that little bit smaller than a the typical acoustic.Β  And because it was reasonably inexpensive, it doesn't have to live in a big protective case.

When I bought it, I thought there was a bit of buzz on the topE, but figured that would be a quick fix.

Turns out that it's not so quick, but, thanks to the bolt-on neck, it should be quite easy.

I'm guessing the previous owner had tweaked the guitar to get the action down to a reasonable level - and it was reasonable (if a little inconsistent over the length of the neck) apart from that bit of buzz.

I checked the neck and there was zero relief, and possibly even a bit of back bow.Β  Loosened off the truss rod to get the fretboard properly flat (frets are fine - it's barely been played) and I've now got about 4mm between strings and 12th fret.Β  Which is a bit high for my lazy fingers.

The nut is cut as low as it'll go.Β  I could maybe shave ~0.5mm off the saddle, but no more.Β  So neither option is going to give me what I need.

Time for a neck reset.

The guidance is to take this to "your local Taylor authorised service centre".Β  So after watching a couple of YT videos, I went out to my workshop.

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There's one bolt that goes from inside the body into the heel, and one screw/bolt into the extension under the fretboard.Β  Remove those (I've shown them outside-to-in rather than inside-to-out in the pic below), and the neck comes away fairly easily to reveal the shims.Β  Quick email to Taylor CS and I've got a set of replacement shims on the way.Β  You use matched pairs to change the neck angle - each shim is numbered based on its thickness/angle.Β 

So far, the hardest bit was finding the right size Allen key to be able to loosen the screw/bolt!

When the shim-kit arrives, I should then be able to get the action down to a more finger-friendly level and make a good guitar even better.

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But more importantly, it's also making me think about a bolt-on approach for my possible acoustic build.Β  Seems a lot easier, and it certainly works well on the GS Mini.

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I'm currently ploughing my way through watching the acoustic course videos, making the most of the torrential rainy days we're having here. You've convinced me to make a bolt on neck, when I get around to continuing my build.


   
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You've convinced me to make a bolt on neck, when I get around to continuing my build.

Well, if it's good enough for Taylor ...

Be interesting to see how the shims work when the arrive and I fit them - how much improvement to the action I can get, and whether I end up with any ugly gaps in the neck/body join.

I shall report back in due course.

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Be interesting to see how the shims work when the arrive

Are you not tempted to cnc your own shims?


   
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Be interesting to see how the shims work when the arrive

Are you not tempted to cnc your own shims?

I did think about it @robin - always an option - but as Taylor offered to send me a pack of alternative shims, I didn't need to.

I've had very good experience from Taylor Customer Service before too, impressed with them.

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Posted by: @tv101

The guidance is to take this to "your local Taylor authorised service centre".Β 

YOU are your local Koendb's authorised service center πŸ˜‰


   
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Posted by: @tv101

I did think about it @robin - always an option - but as Taylor offered to send me a pack of alternative shims, I didn't need to.

I've had very good experience from Taylor Customer Service before too, impressed with them.

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You could just make the shims yourself anyway and keep the Taylor supplied shims as a plan B ? That's what I would do πŸ™‚


   
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Posted by: @koendb

Posted by: @tv101

The guidance is to take this to "your local Taylor authorised service centre".Β 

YOU are your local Koendb's authorised service center πŸ˜‰

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Not so local Koen - unless you're planning on taking your latest wow creation on a European (and, post-Brexit, non-European) tour??

πŸ˜‰

If you've got a Taylor, their CS (based in Netherlands) is really impressive.Β  When I bought my first one (12 string), the shop sent it with a gig bag that was *really* tight fitting, so I emailed Taylor CS and they just offered to send me a bigger one.Β  FoC.Β  Thank you Taylor CS.

This little GS-mini is a great pick-up-and-play guitar, so great that I decided to spend some time on it to get it playing as well as it should.Β  It was a fairly cheap buy because I think the seller realised that it wasn't quite right - but it should be entirely fixable with a little time and care.

I also had a T3 in years-gone-by, which was beautifully built but the body was just too big to be playable comfortably, so I sold that one.Β  But I was impressed by its quality.

Overall, my impression of Taylor is very positive.Β  That probably explains why I also bough a T5z earlier this year ...

(sssshhhhh - don't tell anyone)

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You could just make the shims yourself anyway and keep the Taylor supplied shims as a plan B ? That's what I would do πŸ™‚

I might - just as a challenge for the CNC.Β  From what I've seen, their shims are made to fractions of a mm, and have to be fitted as a matching pair.Β  It'd be an interesting challenge to see how closely I could replicate a pair of genuine Taylor shims on the CNC.Β Β 

Not least because I might well need to create some for my one-day Acoustic build.

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