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jamesbisset
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I’ve measured up a few P90s and covers. I’m guessing they’ll be imperial measurements (because America) and the corner radii look like 1/4" or 3/16". 

Bare Knuckle use 1/4". Tonerider use 3/16".

Even DiMarzio have varied the shape depending on which P90. My vintage style Soapbar DP167S is 3/16" (current site looks like 1/4") . The modern P90 humbuckers are all 1/4".

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So the big question is: which corner radius is on the Bailey P90 template? And what are the chances of an option in the shop?

I have reasons: I’m planning to use mini-humbuckers on my archtop build - I’ve already bought them, although I’ve never used their like before. Gibson used to fit minis into P90 routs when they had more of one than the other. I could always rout for P90s and fit minis with a mounting ring. And if the minis suck, I don’t need to re-rout.

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Basically, all P90s are not equal. Some P90s have a bigger corner radius than others.

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Interesting, I am planning to use P90’s in my first build. I guess I’ll have to wait until they turn up and measure them, make a template and get hold of the correct router bit.

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The internal radius on all corners is 5mm


   
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Forgive me - I can’t do Imperial.

I worked in a signs and exhibitions workshop for years. I was the guy in the wee room in the back who worked the AppleMac (as everyone called it at the time). I was working to incredibly fine mm tolerances on an SE30 9 inch screen, zooming in and in and in again, drawing up lettering and logos which might be machine-cut out of vinyl metres high.

Meanwhile, out in the ’shop, the carpenter was building frames for these displays and working with arcane, esoteric units of measurement like a bee’s bollock or a gnat’s tadger.

As in 2 ’n’ 3/8ths and a bee’s bollock or 5ft 8 ’n’ 3/4in and a gnat’s tadger.

It was like cold science confronting an ancient, intuitive system passed down from the fairies. 

Needless to say, he was a brilliant joiner and I was forever corrupted with the assumption that I knew what a bee’s bollock was. It ruins my attempts to measure things even today.

Hmmm... looks like around 36mm - and a wee bit. That’ll do.

 

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The internal radius on all corners is 5mm

OK. 1/4" is 6.35mm. So that’s gonna be too tight. 3/16" is 4.76mm (and a bee’s bollock). So 5mm sounds pretty much perfect for that ‘sharper’ P90 profile. 

p90 cover radius variations

Top cover is a Bare Knuckle ‘bone white’ celluloid P90 cover which they sent me a few years ago when I was struggling to match the white paint job on one of my Yamaha RGX A2s. Always helpful people (it didn’t match though).

Bottom cover is a generic P90 plastic cover from goodness know where. My guess is, it’s going to be a fashion thing. P90 profiles will drift from one to the other as current styles prevail.

But my point still stands - we need options! 😛 *

 

 

 

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@jamesbisset The SE30! I was working at an AppleCentre in London when that machine was launched. We thought computing had reached its pinnacle! I mean, it came with a 40Mb hard drive and (I think) 4mb of RAM as standard and you could upgrade to 8Mb for only an additional £1235+VAT. It was just ridiculous to think that anybody could ever need more power or memory than the SE30 and even 8 bit colour (all 256 of them) was seen as just an unnecessary and very expensive luxury so the fact that the SE30 had a B&W screen didn’t matter. This was about the time that the BBC ran an April fool feature on the program that took over from SwapShop featuring a device the size of a box of matches that could digitally store several entire music albums. I think it was called the Chippie. It sounded entirely plausible to me but I got the piss taken out of me something rotten at work for believing it. Not my biggest mistake though. If, at the time, I’d invested £1000 in Apple and £1000 in Microsoft it would worth upwards of £40million now! Hey ho!!


   
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My Epiphone humbuckers have got tight corners and didn't fit into the standard humbucker cavity. My smallest bit with a guide bearing is 12mm ( three bee's bollocks and a gnats whisker below 1/2").  I chiselled the cavity corners square and any untidyness is covered by the plastic surround.

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