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I am out of my depth with wiring and as a player I like to keep it simple. Unless people ask for more knobs and electrics, I’m only putting 1 Volume and 1x 3 way switch for 2 pickups on all my builds. I put a treble bleed kit into the electrics so I don’t lose tone when I roll back the volume a little. I’m a simple man! ?

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I have searched the forums for any Set neck v Bolt on neck debates but can't find any. This must surely be a topic that splits the nation isn't it? Any thoughts strongly one way or the other, either in general, or for specific types of guitar?


   
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I have searched the forums for any Set neck v Bolt on neck debates but can't find any. This must surely be a topic that splits the nation isn't it? Any thoughts strongly one way or the other, either in general, or for specific types of guitar?

@darrenking I prefer bolt-on necks, I love the way it’s easy to swap one neck for another and it just makes the whole guitar more customisable. I do like set necks and through necks also but not as much as the trusty bolt-on. ??????

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@johnnierox-boo And do you use standard metal plate and wood screws or screw cups and machine screws?


   
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Back to Darren’s PA thump - assume that is when you unplug - I have some jacks that have a built in switch that mutes the cable as you unplug - made up some leads using them - they work really well.......

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I am out of my depth with wiring and as a player I like to keep it simple. Unless people ask for more knobs and electrics, I’m only putting 1 Volume and 1x 3 way switch for 2 pickups on all my builds. I put a treble bleed kit into the electrics so I don’t lose tone when I roll back the volume a little.

I've got a single pickup Tele @johnnierox-boo

It has a vol & tone pot.

Both of those are push/push.

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(And, yes, they both do something useful!!)

 

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And do you use standard metal plate and wood screws or screw cups and machine screws?

@darrenking Up to now I’ve only used standard or offset plates with wood screws but I’m getting all wet about the time I have a go at the machine screw method. 

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Hi Bil, yeah, I had one of them until some bugger nicked it because it worked so well!! 


   
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Not essential by any means - and I rarely use the "both at once" option on my guitars

@TV1010101 it’s the only option when you put in humbuckers that are out of phase ala Peter Green/Gary Moore.

 

I love the middle position especially with P90’s and a humbucker not withstanding the PG/GM mod...

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@tv1010101 Gorgeous guitar! Very minimalist! I am coming over all zen!!

These are the little switches I mentioned and I've got four more boxes of them!!

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@tv1010101 Sorry, I am not sure what push/push means.


   
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Nice switches!

Sorry, I am not sure what push/push means

It’s what you have to do if you’ve got a French car @darrenking
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Or ... it’s these ...

A standard pot, but with a switch (technically, I suppose that’s actually *2* switches?) on the bottom.  The switch can be used for things like coil tapping.  It’s activated by pulling the knob up, or pushing it back down.  The nicer switches work as push-push (ie, push the knob and it springs up and activates the switch, push it again and it goes back down and de-activates).

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@darrenking Wow! They look like great little switches. Are they suitable for guitar building projects? If so, will you send them to some of your guitar building friends? ?

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A standard pot, but with a switch (technically, I suppose that’s actually *2* switches?) on the bottom.  The switch can be used for things like coil tapping.  It’s activated by pulling the knob up, or pushing it back down.  The nicer switches work as push-push (ie, push the knob and it springs up and activates the switch, push it again and it goes back down and de-activates).

These look like great little switches, are they difficult to wire up? 

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These look like great little switches, are they difficult to wire up? 

Not particularly hard @johnnierox-boo - it's just a couple more solder joints to make.

There are loads of wiring diagrams on the www with all sorts of clever uses of the switch.

A simple option is to use it to coil tap a pickup.  Solder the tap wires to one of the middle tabs, and then a ground wire from either the top or bottom tab on the same rows of tabs.

That'll coil tap the pickup that you've connected.  You could connect the other pickup to the other row of tabs and coil tap both on the same pot.

Obviously, you need pickups with 4 wires to be able to do that!

 

Always easier to solder outside the cavity, and then put the pots into the cavity.

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@johnnierox-boo Hi, They have a common terminal and one n/o and one n/c contact so you could use them in the same way as a simple two position toggle switch but without the sticky out bit. Or, as I am going to to do on this build, use one as an on/off for the output so that you can silence the guitar when inserting or removing the cable. Sound engineers will love you for it!


   
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 The nicer switches work as push-push (ie, push the knob and it springs up and activates the switch, push it again and it goes back down and de-activates).

I've found that the push/push variety are much easier to activate by mistake - too easy to press and change position especially in the heat of battle -sometimes without knowing you did it. Also harder to tell if it is 'in' or 'out' just by looking. I prefer push/pull but that could be just me... the only way to be sure is to try both and see what you prefer...and don't forget to make sure and let us all know!!

ps. I'll be doing Soldering on Sat 1pm so have you Q's ready!

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These are the little switches I mentioned and I've got four more boxes of them!!

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@darrenking -  Are they momentary or latching switches? Either way that will make a very cool Kill Switch...I'll send you an email!

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@markbailey Hi Mark, These are by far the most beautiful little switches that I have ever found and I use them on a lamp base product that I make from time to time (www.woodqube.com). In fact, it was the lack of a nice switch option that put me off making any lighting for years.

The switches are latching so the common is connected to one or the other terminal until the button is pressed again so you can switch between two inputs or simply use them as on/off switches. They are rated at 3A/240v so should be able to cope with even the thrashiest of guitar outputs!! The threaded section isn't very long so I usually glue them into a 16mm diameter hole with a dab of superglue or epoxy. This holds them perfectly adequately but if they ever need to be replaced (I've only done it once to check that t could be done) then they can be wound out of their hole using a G-Clamp. I'll need to check back on the price but they were certainly sub £5.


   
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@tv1010101 They look pretty long, what depth of body do they need? i am just being lazy, I guess I could check the Axtec site, but if you happen to know off the top of your head........


   
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