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I've seen it on proper branded guitars (decent, expensive brand, IIRC, I just can't remember what it was!), so absolutely no reason to even think about trying to hide it.

One can find an example on my very first build, where something moved during the glueup of the neck. 😊

 

There you go - that was obviously the "decent, expensive brand" that I couldn't remember

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(It's going to bug me now, until I *do* remember!!)

 

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you've given us enough clues - I reckon we could narrow it down to a small enough area with the incentive of a barrel of whisky to collect

@tv101 The barrels are not full of whisky, I never said that. 😆 

 

However, I would still have the last laugh watching someone trying to get one of these barrels into the boot of their car. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 

Anyway, I’ve highjacked this post/topic too much so I’ll shut up about it now. 🤐

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Anyway, I’ve highjacked this post/topic too much so I’ll shut up about it now. 

No worries @boo , we all need a wee bit of light entertainment.


   
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@robin 

that actually looks amazing, that's going to have to be included on my 'to do'  list..i'll bet it plays as well as it looks.

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that actually looks amazing, that's going to have to be included on my 'to do'  list..i'll bet it plays as well as it looks.

Thanks, and it does play well. I had a friend over yesterday, his playing made it sound really good. So much so that I've decided to ditch the fake bigsby and splash out for a real one.


   
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@robin I made a new comment listed under my name  [leaderboard list]- on the sidebar, in which i lament on not remembering how to create a topic and/or add pix? is there an instruction link somewhere that you know of? not sure if you can even read my comment on my recent hand - surgery,,,thanks Brosky

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I made a new comment listed under my name  [leaderboard list]- on the sidebar, in which i lament on not remembering how to create a topic and/or add pix? is there an instruction link somewhere that you know of? not sure if you can even read my comment on my recent hand - surgery,,,thanks Brosky

I can't point you towards any instructions, and to be honest I struggled creating this topic. But I see you've managed to create your topic and added photos too, it's appeared in the recent topics list.


   
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@robin 

Yippers...eventually , thanks for the encouragement...


   
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I'm not very happy with the intonation on this build, I should have angled the bridge a bit more. The A string is still a bit sharp with the bridge adjusted as far as it will go. If I tried thicker strings, would that affect the intonation?

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@robin I think it would get worse with thicker strings, needing longer free length. Maybe a bridge with a little more adjustment range could fix it?

If you have another A string, you could try that first. Sometimes (very rarely) I've had a new string behave very errant.

 

Edit: I could be all wrong, of course.


   
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I think it would get worse with thicker strings, needing longer free length. Maybe a bridge with a little more adjustment range could fix it?

If you have another A string, you could try that first. Sometimes (very rarely) I've had a new string behave very errant.

I'm planning on using thicker strings to put more tension on the fake bigsby. The strings on it are an old set of 09's that I used for the initial setup and to check that the electrics work. I think I'm going put it up on top of the wardrobe and forget about it for while then wait to see if the whiskey barrel oak top has stabilised before I do anything else to it. Meanwhile I'll think about starting an acoustic build.


   
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@robin if the strings are old they could be causing intonation problems, I had a bad G with a set of elixir and they were brand new! Intonation was awful. New string and boom! Sorted.

 

The A string doesn't usually sit further back thatn the E from what I've seen on guitars so far. It sits slightly forward of the low E on every guitar I have at the moment and that's quite a few lol


   
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Posted by: @robin

If I tried thicker strings, would that affect the intonation?

@robin Yeah, the intonation always needs adjusting if you change string gauge. Maybe not a lot but it will need some. 
I don’t think that will give you enough adjustment in terms of scale length though. 
inless anyone has any fancy tricks, I think the only way to fix the problem is to peg the bridge holes and re drill in the correct place. 
Sorry I can’t offer anything better. 

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@robin if the strings are old they could be causing intonation problems, I had a bad G with a set of elixir and they were brand new! Intonation was awful. New string and boom! Sorted.

 

The A string doesn't usually sit further back thatn the E from what I've seen on guitars so far. It sits slightly forward of the low E on every guitar I have at the moment and that's quite a few lol

@Robin This is also a very wise thing to try before any drastic action. 👍

 

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I think the only way to fix the problem is to peg the bridge holes and re drill in the correct place

Yes, I fully expect to be plugging and drilling bridge holes, but I'll definitely try new strings.

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The A string doesn't usually sit further back thatn the E from what I've seen on guitars so far. It sits slightly forward of the low E on every guitar I have at the moment and that's quite a few lol

Thats a good point, I'll give it a try with new set of strings.


   
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@robin just leave loads of winds on the pegs, that way you can reuse them if it doesn't fix the problem. I don't really worry about tuning stability at that stage, just saving the strings lol


   
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@robin I’ve often pondered the question of sinking a bridge into the body as an alternative to achieving an accurate neck back angle to give a nice low string action. Seems viable to me but , as I’m just starting on my first scratch build, I’d be pleased to hear opinions from those with more experience.


   
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@robin Just another thought...

It could be worth checking the A string nut slot to make sure the string leaves crisp right at the end of the slot.


   
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@brie I accidently missed the neck angle on my first guitar and the solution was making a 2mm deep recess under the wraparound bridge. I made the recess larger, with rounded corners and it turned out well. It looks like it is designed to be that way and is quite comfortable to play.

But I think I rather avoid accidently move the neck in the first place... 😊 


   
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I’ve often pondered the question of sinking a bridge into the body as an alternative to achieving an accurate neck back angle to give a nice low string action. Seems viable to me but , as I’m just starting on my first scratch build, I’d be pleased to hear opinions from those with more experience

I don't think of it as an alternative to an accurate neck fit, it's more of a solution to an inaccurate neck fit. But the general consensus is that its okay to sink the bridge. I'm not the first to have done it and I'm sure I won't be the last.


   
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