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This is where I've got to with the drawing for this one. Next phase of machining planned for this weekend hopefully, although I have got to a take my daughter back down to university on Sunday which reduces my 'playtime' somewhat!

I am thinking mahogany neck with figured walnut headstock veneer and was planning a 670mm scale length to match to Maccaferri Petite Bouche acoustics. Are there any big downsides to having a longer scale length on an electric guitar?

 


   
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@johnnierox-boo Of course I can! Off the top of my head they are about £4 each


   
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Are there any big downsides to having a longer scale length on an electric guitar?

 

You need a bigger case for it. ? 

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Anyone else getting a 406 ACCESS DENIED message when trying to post replies?


   
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Sorry, 403!


   
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No problem on this thread but I am trying to comment on Marcel's spalted maple guitar and "The Server' won't let me.


   
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what depth of body do they need?

 

i am just being lazy, I guess I could check the Axtec site

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@darrenking  I notice that you have the scarf joint under the fretboard rather than on the headstock. I'm in two minds as to which method is best. I can see that with one method the joint is hidden under the fretboard, but would it be a stronger joint on the wider area of the headstock.


   
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No problem on this thread but I am trying to comment on Marcel's spalted maple guitar and "The Server' won't let me.

I see that error message from time to time.

Usually waiting a bit, or refresh the browser, and it clears.

I'm guessing that it's a server config/performance problem.  Either Mark's now getting a lot more traffic on his site/server (I don't know what his hosting arrangements are!) than it was originally sized for, or there's some contention issues, or perhaps its a host's issue, or there's a bandwidth issue somewhere, or ...

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@robin I know that Mark is a strong advocate of the headstock joint and I'm not going to question his logic. I prefer the neck joint method because A. I prefer the look of the joint in the back in the neck rather than the side of my head stock, B. My gut feeling is that a joint made by sandwiching three pieces together is going to be at least as strong  (think of a tenon joint against a simple lap joint) and C. The maple I used for my first necks wasn't long enough to employ the headstock joint. TBH I think it mainly comes down to personal preference and if your guitar ever gets twatted against something hard enough to make its head fall off, which ever method you've followed, then you should probably have been more careful with it in the first place!

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@darrenking   I think I'll go with the hidden under the fretboard method as I haven't managed to make an invisible joint on anything else yet. And you're right, hit it hard enough and both styles will break.


   
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@tv1010101 I think Marcel has blocked me! It's only his posts I can't comment on. Maybe he's allergic to snails!!


   
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I think Marcel has blocked me!

Ahhhhh - I didn't realise that could be done here @darrenking - I need to find out how to do it too

 

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I'm guessing that it's a server config/performance problem.  Either Mark's now getting a lot more traffic on his site/server (I don't know what his hosting arrangements are!) than it was originally sized for, or there's some contention issues, or perhaps its a host's issue, or there's a bandwidth issue somewhere, or ...

Ah-hah @darrenking, I've just finished watching today's livestream and see that @markbailey has already got this in hand!!!

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Errors may be due to the team moving things to their own host...it sounds like it should be fixed soon and we should see improved performance on the site...I also hope they fix the edit and quote functions...

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I prefer push/pull but that could be just me...

I’ve fitted both but I prefer push/push on a guitar I would be playing live as it’s easier to select when you have sweaty hands..it can easily be selected by accident I agree with @markbailey on that...

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I think Marcel has blocked me! It's only his posts I can't comment on.

I am not aware of blocking anybody, don't even know if it is possible. And if it is I wouldn't know how to do it.

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I thought it time that I actually did some guitar making, rather than just fannying around with jigs and shit, and so here is an update on my first electric build!

The body and neck of my electric Maccaferri (inspiration rather than a tribute!) has been sat next to my desk for months and I couldn’t take the sad expression on its face any longer. Having broken Mark’s golden rule of not shaping the guitar body until the machining has been completed (doing it with a CNC router means this isn’t really a big issue) I sat and completed the files during Saturdays two hour love stream. Half of the time was spent just trying to remember things that I knew only 5 months ago, like how I was going to fix the neck on and other minor details like that. It’s a bit like coming back to a half finished sudoku two days later and trying to pick it up again.

Due to the body shape, and because I had already cut the body profile before reading Marks suggestion of leaving extra meat on the body on the treble side to be sanded off after the neck is glued in, I have gone with a Les Paul style tenon joint. This will be the first and last time that I do this as it has proved to be a real pain in the ass and has taken (and will take) a load of time to complete.

So, after too many months of no progress, I have achieved the following this weekend:

1. Machined the pick up and knob/switch recesses to the front of the body

2. Machined the recess in the back of the body for the electrics and installed the threaded inserts for the cover screws

3. Machined the truss rod slot, fitted the truss rod, bonded the cap and planed it flush

4. Shaped the angled tenon block to be glued and dowelled to the neck heel

5. Machined the neck profile to 0.5mm of finished width

So, it is looking more like a guitar than it did on Friday, but still some way to go.

Cheers

Darren

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so here is an update on my first electric build!

@darrenking It’s looking great Darren, I like the tenon joint. I love the woods you have used, cool top. You’ve got a lot done, it’s coming together quick now. I take it you are going with an oil finish? It will look stunning. 👍

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That is *BEAUTIFUL*.  Imagine how it's going to look once it's got some finish on it.

Stunner.

 

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