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@russ I use Frog Tape these days.

Cheers @boo. I always believe that in most cases you get what you pay for.  I'll check it out.

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Time for a bit of primer. First I finished masking it all off properly. I have a roll of masking paper and some cheaper masking tape for this. 

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First coat of high build primer. 

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More coats applied and I’ve got sinkage and cracking so more repairs needed. I’ll let it fully dry before sanding back before applying more filler. This may look bad but all it’s doing is showing me what needs more attention. You can’t always see or feel problem areas so applying a few coats of primer show them up and you can assess what you need to do next. Painting isn’t alway plain sailing  and this is why you need a lot of patience and calm disposition when problems occur. I could do more work on it and things could go wrong again but their is always something more that can be done. There are different products I can use if I continue to get problems. 
Ive got loads of gardening work to do tomorrow so I’ll come back to this at the weekend. 

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And this would be the point where I would start to swear and give up 🙂


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@boo is it the case you need to build it up slower leaving more drying time?

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is it the case you need to build it up slower leaving more drying time?

@tej It would probably sink anyway, however I applied it. It’s good that this happens because it shows that things are not quite right and more attention needs to be spent on the repair before applying the top coats. Can you imaging if I went through the whole paint process and then everything started sinking? 
Things are never as bad as they first look, once you start sanding it back, a lot of it disappears and it just needs more primer or maybe a little more filler first.  

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I sanded it back today and some spots needed some more filler, just a very thin skim. When this is dry I’ll sand it flat and then mask up for more primer. 

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Some more fancy back masking and it’s now ready for primer, again! 

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Here’s one for ya! 

I put some isolator paint over this repair as I thought I would try some different primer and could get a paint reaction. Quite a horrible mustard colour isn’t it? 

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@boo   Is that you using an aerosol can, just like us amateurs do.


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**FRYUP** 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bacon and eggs with your fryup sir? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 

Even with the isolation paint the existing paint really doesn’t like this primer, so it let me know. The isolator did it’s job but the as the fryup started occurring where there wasn’t any, it’s got underneath, around the edges and fried up. 

Shock horror for a lot of you I expect but it’s nothing to worry about, I just need to try something else. This is chemistry, I just need to combine the right products properly, a bit of trial and error at the moment. When it’s dry, all that shocking looking fryup will just sand straight off and I’ll try something else. 

This is the time, if this ever happens to you, to keep your cool, it’s not the end of the world and it’s not ruined your project. It’s important that you recognise there is clearly a problem and you should stop applying any more paint. No amount of applying more of the same paint will make it any better, you will not bury the problem. Stop, let it dry and cure, then come back to it and sand it off. Yes you are back to square one again and it’s frustrating but it’s not the end. 

This is why I don’t like using nitro paint, it’s quite incompatible with other products. I’m not going to shy away from it though because I’ll have to use it again at some point so I will have to learn from my mistakes and it will make me a better painter with a wider knowledge of paints I haven’t really used before. 

Bring it on. I will not be beaten. 🤘😁🤘🎸

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Is that you using an aerosol can, just like us amateurs do.

@robin It is, even the pros use rattle cans in certain situations. 😉👍

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Is that you using an aerosol can, just like us amateurs do.

@robin It’s not done me much good in this situation though. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@boo

FRYUP**🤣🤣🤣🤣Bacon and eggs with your fryup sir?

Thats a bit of a setback, I'm sorry to see that. It happened to me on my first build, lacquering over my waterslide decals, "fry up" is the perfect description for it.


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Very interesting.  I'm not a painter but want to eventually do this sort of thing. I didn't even know this could happen. It is unfortunate but very helpful for someone like me to see and to see the progression of how to deal with this issue. Thanks for sharing. 🙂


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I don’t feel so bad now I know that even professional painters get crazy paving sometimes. It happened to me during the summer when I was giving my lathe a re spray. Had to rub it all down and start again.

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Very interesting.  I'm not a painter but want to eventually do this sort of thing. I didn't even know this could happen. It is unfortunate but very helpful for someone like me to see and to see the progression of how to deal with this issue. Thanks for sharing. 🙂

@bpower That’s exactly why I’m sharing it. These things happen and they can be fixed. When this happens, a lot of the time it can be the solvent (thinner) in your new paint that reactivates the old paint and the two react badly with each other. So if you spray the new paint on a little too wet for the old paint’s liking, it blisters quite quickly right in front of your eyes, within a minute or two. 

To fix: the proper way is to remove the paint entirely and repaint. It’s not always possible to do that so a quick fix is to sand it back and you can reapply the paint in much lighter coats, dusting it on and hope it doesn’t fry up again. I will sand it back to get rid of all that blistering, probably spray more isolator on (a couple of coats over a wider area) and use some different primer paint. If it all happens again, I’ll repeat all of that and use yet another type of primer paint. 

It’s a real dance sometimes but that’s the game. 

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I don’t feel so bad now I know that even professional painters get crazy paving sometimes. It happened to me during the summer when I was giving my lathe a re spray. Had to rub it all down and start again.

@rocknroller912 Yeah it can happen a lot, especially on machinery parts. Hammerite type paints can be a nightmare to paint over. 

Pro painters have to deal with fryups quite a lot and it always seems to happen at the worst times, like at the end of the day. 

This video comes with a bad language warning but it gets the point across. The Gunman is a real pro and really knows his stuff. Here he shows his frustration about getting a fryup. 🤣 

**Bad language warning**

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@boo

Love the video. You can always rely on a Aussie to tell it like it is. Interesting point you made about paint being too wet and causing problems. Could this happened with a spray can if it’s not been shaken enough and the solvent/paint mix is wrong.

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