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11/09/2020 2:59 pm  

I'm not persuaded that there are any sound benefits from doing it

Some say pickups mounted to pickguards or rings have a brighter sound than those screwed direct to the body (which tend to have a warmer sound).

I may be too old and shot ears but I can’t hear the difference. I agree with @TV1010101 though that it does look nice and neat.


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11/09/2020 3:02 pm  

And do they need to have any means of adjusting the height and angle of the pick up?

@darrenking the ones I’ve used I put hard(ish) foam something like an old mouse mat doubling up if necessary so you can raise or lower the pup. Angle is more difficult..


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11/09/2020 7:47 pm  

I'll have to think about that!!

@tv101001 @darren king I would use some sponge or foam stuck underneath that squashes down when lowering the pickup and raises the pickup when raising the pickup. 

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11/09/2020 7:50 pm  

@tv101001 @darren king I would use some sponge or foam stuck underneath that squashes down when lowering the pickup and raises the pickup when raising the pickup.

That was a really bad sentence! 

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11/09/2020 7:58 pm  

What is the aim of these blocks as I don't quite understand the advantages?

@darrenking For me Darren it’s just aesthetic really, just to get rid of the pickup rings. There are a lot of ‘80 metal guitars without pickup rings and I want to emulate that in some of my builds. 

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11/09/2020 7:59 pm  

@johnnierox-boo don’t worry. I have days when making sense feels like a second language!!


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11/09/2020 8:01 pm  

I know it would mean having another cover plate but couldn’t they be mounted from behind to avoid having the visible recesses for the screw fixings?


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11/09/2020 8:04 pm  

Or could the mounting plates be fixed into a recess in the front so that they sit flush with the surface?


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11/09/2020 8:17 pm  

I know it would mean having another cover plate but couldn’t they be mounted from behind to avoid having the visible recesses for the screw fixings?

@darrenking Yeah I know what you mean, that’s how Strats hold their pickups but what happens when someone asks for no pickup rings and no scratch plate? Direct mount is the only answer and I’m not happy with using wood screws as the height adjusters. 

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11/09/2020 8:20 pm  

Or could the mounting plates be fixed into a recess in the front so that they sit flush with the surface?

I don’t mind having the cavity visible, it’s pretty cool! 

This is my Ibanez PGM Signature with no pickup rings but using wood screws for the direct mount. 

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11/09/2020 8:25 pm  

@johnnierox-boo I meant another cover plate on the back so only the pick up itself would be visible from the front


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11/09/2020 8:31 pm  

@darrenking This is my Ibanez JEM with direct mount pickups, also wood screws. The clear scratch plate has no functional purpose, it’s purely aesthetic. I think this is a great look but using a metal bar (threaded) for the pickup height adjustment screws (machine screws) to go into, is a much more elegant solution. 

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11/09/2020 8:34 pm  

I meant another cover plate on the back so only the pick up itself would be visible from the front

@darrenking Oh I see! Well, yeah I suppose you could, it’s quite a nice idea. I could run into a problem with bridge pickup if the guitar has a trem, that room at the back would be taken up with the spring cavity. 

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12/09/2020 10:18 am  

That's a good Q @darrenking.  I'll have to think about that!!

Right, having completely forgotten to think about it ... my sub-conscious has clearly been working on it because an idea has just popped into the empty space I call "my head".

Off to the workshop to mock something up ....

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12/09/2020 11:58 am  

Off to the workshop to mock something up ....

Back from the workshop ... here's the results.

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